Comments on: Roman Cruelty, Christian Purity http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/ Mike Aquilina's Blog Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:47:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: xavier http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/comment-page-1/#comment-203 xavier Thu, 04 May 2006 20:45:53 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/#comment-203 Michael: Indeed. The Humez brother who wrote their hilarious Latina pro populo point out that girls didn't have their own names. If there were 2 daugther they'd be called If you have a chance take a look at Michel Onfey's Athéologie ( don't know if it's been translated into English) I read the Catalan interview when his book was translated into that language. He whined about how 20 centuries of Christanity has deeply permeated every aspect of life and makes it so tough to push radical atheistic policies. He then cited the example of pain and the body to illustrate his point. It's curious how Islam appears to preserve those charactristics of the classical world: honour killings, contempt for girls; civil disqualifications of women, etc. Comparing the before and after of the classical world's morality- I really appreciate the legacy and am saddened by the throwing the pearls to pigs xavier Michael:

Indeed. The Humez brother who wrote their hilarious Latina pro populo point out that girls didn’t have their own names. If there were 2 daugther they’d be called
If you have a chance take a look at Michel Onfey’s Athéologie ( don’t know if it’s been translated into English) I read the Catalan interview when his book was translated into that language. He whined about how 20 centuries of Christanity has deeply permeated every aspect of life and makes it so tough to push radical atheistic policies. He then cited the example of pain and the body to illustrate his point.

It’s curious how Islam appears to preserve those charactristics of the classical world: honour killings, contempt for girls; civil disqualifications of women, etc.
Comparing the before and after of the classical world’s morality- I really appreciate the legacy and am saddened by the throwing the pearls to pigs

xavier

]]> By: Mike Aquilina http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/comment-page-1/#comment-202 Mike Aquilina Thu, 04 May 2006 19:06:56 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/#comment-202 It's not unfair to say that the pagan view of childhood was often radically different from that of the Jews and Christians. They exposed "defective," female, and otherwise unwanted infants. Roman law permitted a father to treat his children severely and even execute them (though this right was probably not exercised very often). Daughters were the butt of many jokes, because they were considered economic liabilities and otherwise useless. And so on. We take for granted how much of our sexual ethic -- and even the value we place on the latency period -- is a gift of the Judaeo-Christian legacy. It’s not unfair to say that the pagan view of childhood was often radically different from that of the Jews and Christians. They exposed “defective,” female, and otherwise unwanted infants. Roman law permitted a father to treat his children severely and even execute them (though this right was probably not exercised very often). Daughters were the butt of many jokes, because they were considered economic liabilities and otherwise useless. And so on. We take for granted how much of our sexual ethic — and even the value we place on the latency period — is a gift of the Judaeo-Christian legacy.

]]> By: xavier http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/comment-page-1/#comment-201 xavier Thu, 04 May 2006 16:19:37 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/04/roman-cruelty-christian-purity/#comment-201 Mike; Very fascinating. So the weariness that the pagans experienced was because they felt despair they were sickened by the decadence and wondered if life offered more than it did. And the Christians showed clearly that life need not be a succession of sating base appetites Speaking delicately about the girls being married off early, JL Adams in his book on Latin sexual vocabulary cites Plantus (the guy who wrote the golden ass novella) who mentions about how an 8 year girl had already experienced her first encounter and doctors noting about the absence of a certain tissue in girls of that age. That really shocked me. I didn't think the decadence So question: how come the classical world was so indifferent to protecting children's innocence? Invincidable ignorance or deep apathy? xavier Mike;
Very fascinating. So the weariness that the pagans experienced was because they felt despair they were sickened by the decadence and wondered if life offered more than it did. And the Christians showed clearly that life need not be a succession of sating base appetites
Speaking delicately about the girls being married off early, JL Adams in his book on Latin sexual vocabulary cites Plantus (the guy who wrote the golden ass novella) who mentions about how an 8 year girl had already experienced her first encounter and doctors noting about the absence of a certain tissue in girls of that age. That really shocked me. I didn’t think the decadence
So question: how come the classical world was so indifferent to protecting children’s innocence? Invincidable ignorance or deep apathy?

xavier

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