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	<title>Comments on: Honest Pagans on the Historical Jesus</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evidence Against the Testimonium Flavianum</title>
		<link>http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/09/honest-pagans-on-the-historical-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evidence Against the Testimonium Flavianum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem some scholars raise (and even some Church Fathers raised) is that if Josephus could make a statement of faith such as “He was the Christ,” such a faith should pervade the rest of his history - especially his reading of the prophets and patriarchs, and at the very least his reading of the death of St. James. But it doesn’t. In recent centuries, some unbelieving scholars have used the paucity of references to Jesus in Josephus’ writings to argue against the Nazarene’s very existence. Yet they perhaps forget that Josephus elsewhere proclaims his own master, the Emperor Vespasian, to be the Messiah, and so the historian would probably be reluctant to give notice to the most promising “competition.” - http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/09/honest-pagans-on-the-historical-jesus/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The problem some scholars raise (and even some Church Fathers raised) is that if Josephus could make a statement of faith such as “He was the Christ,” such a faith should pervade the rest of his history &#8211; especially his reading of the prophets and patriarchs, and at the very least his reading of the death of St. James. But it doesn’t. In recent centuries, some unbelieving scholars have used the paucity of references to Jesus in Josephus’ writings to argue against the Nazarene’s very existence. Yet they perhaps forget that Josephus elsewhere proclaims his own master, the Emperor Vespasian, to be the Messiah, and so the historian would probably be reluctant to give notice to the most promising “competition.” &#8211; <a href="http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/09/honest-pagans-on-the-historical-jesus/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2006/05/09/honest-pagans-on-the-historical-jesus/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: xavier</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 22:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:
How sad we lost Celsus&#039; works. I bet that we&#039;ve read them, the writing would sound very familiar eh?
xavier</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:<br />
How sad we lost Celsus&#8217; works. I bet that we&#8217;ve read them, the writing would sound very familiar eh?<br />
xavier</p>
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