Comments on: New Yorker Locuta, Causa Finita http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/ Mike Aquilina's Blog Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fred http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-237188 Fred Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:35:14 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-237188 How about "God has promised forgiveness to your repentance; but He has not promised tomorrow to your procrastination"? I'm thinking exposition of <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1801103.htm" rel="nofollow">Psalm 103</a> How about “God has promised forgiveness to your repentance; but He has not promised tomorrow to your procrastination”? I’m thinking exposition of Psalm 103

]]> By: Mike Aquilina http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-232673 Mike Aquilina Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:45:59 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-232673 The New Yorker piece actually mentions the Bogart -- and many others. (Jimmy Cagney never said "You dirty rat.") I had to edit it down to make it bloggable! The New Yorker piece actually mentions the Bogart — and many others. (Jimmy Cagney never said “You dirty rat.”) I had to edit it down to make it bloggable!

]]> By: Karen Edmisten http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-232668 Karen Edmisten Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:41:24 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-232668 Humphrey Bogart never said, "Play it again, Sam," either. Ummm, not quite on the same level, I know, but I'm a bit of a stickler. Humphrey Bogart never said, “Play it again, Sam,” either. Ummm, not quite on the same level, I know, but I’m a bit of a stickler.

]]> By: Mike Aquilina http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-226565 Mike Aquilina Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:15:11 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-226565 Shana, I never found it, no. I still haven't given up on it, though. It must be the anti-clerical Sicilian in me... Shana, I never found it, no. I still haven’t given up on it, though. It must be the anti-clerical Sicilian in me…

]]> By: shana sfo http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-225924 shana sfo Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:54:38 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-225924 Mike, I wondered if you ever found the source for the supposed St John Chrysostom quote "the floor of hell is littered with the skulls of bishops"? I know you were surprised that you couldn't find the source in St John's writings (as it does sound like something he'd have said!). Do you suppose it is also a kind of condensed or altered version of something he wrote? Or something modern attributed to the Saint to give it more weight? I've been looking for the source of that quote for a long time! God bless - shana Mike, I wondered if you ever found the source for the supposed St John Chrysostom quote “the floor of hell is littered with the skulls of bishops”? I know you were surprised that you couldn’t find the source in St John’s writings (as it does sound like something he’d have said!).

Do you suppose it is also a kind of condensed or altered version of something he wrote? Or something modern attributed to the Saint to give it more weight? I’ve been looking for the source of that quote for a long time! God bless – shana

]]> By: Mike Aquilina http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-224297 Mike Aquilina Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:27:47 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-224297 Well, the Augustinish statement is often used in conjunction with Vincent's canon: "Now in the Catholic Church itself we take the greatest care to hold that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all." I can see how attribution could shift for skimming eyes. But I can't find anything like it in Vincent either. Well, the Augustinish statement is often used in conjunction with Vincent’s canon: “Now in the Catholic Church itself we take the greatest care to hold that which has been believed everywhere, always and by all.” I can see how attribution could shift for skimming eyes. But I can’t find anything like it in Vincent either.

]]> By: Gibbons Burke http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-224183 Gibbons Burke Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:53:09 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-224183 "Archbishop Gibbons, as the apostolic delegate, opened the [Third Plenary Council in Baltimore on November 9th, 1884] with a brief address in which he quoted St. Vincent Lerin's maxim 'In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, in all things, charity.' " [As related on page 118 of "Prince of Democracy:James Cardinal Gibbons" (Bouchar & Tehan, Hanover House, 1962)] “Archbishop Gibbons, as the apostolic delegate, opened the [Third Plenary Council in Baltimore on November 9th, 1884] with a brief address in which he quoted St. Vincent Lerin’s maxim ‘In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, in all things, charity.’ ”

[As related on page 118 of "Prince of Democracy:James Cardinal Gibbons" (Bouchar & Tehan, Hanover House, 1962)]

]]> By: P. Gibbons Burke Jr. http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-224176 P. Gibbons Burke Jr. Wed, 15 Aug 2007 01:47:31 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-224176 Regarding the second quotation in question, perhaps this may shed some light, or open a trail for further investigation.... In November 1884, Archbishop James Gibbons, in his remarks convening the Third Plenary Council in Baltimore "quoted St. Vincent Lérin's maxim 'In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, in all things, charity.' " [as related in "Prince of Democracy: James Cardinal Gibbons" (Bouchar & Tehan, Hanover House, 1962)] Regarding the second quotation in question, perhaps this may shed some light, or open a trail for further investigation….

In November 1884, Archbishop James Gibbons, in his remarks convening the Third Plenary Council in Baltimore “quoted St. Vincent Lérin’s maxim ‘In essentials unity, in doubtful things liberty, in all things, charity.’ ” [as related in "Prince of Democracy: James Cardinal Gibbons" (Bouchar & Tehan, Hanover House, 1962)]

]]> By: Mike Aquilina http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-223595 Mike Aquilina Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:50:35 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-223595 Well said, Jeff! And I think that's true of all of these Augustinisms. Well said, Jeff! And I think that’s true of all of these Augustinisms.

]]> By: Jeff Miller http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/comment-page-1/#comment-223569 Jeff Miller Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:24:51 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2007/08/14/new-yorker-locuta-causa-finita/#comment-223569 Well the greatest saints do seem to get a lot attributed to them after death. Look at St. Francis who gets attributed for a lot of things never recorded that he said and even a prayer turned song. Though in most cases the attributions are pretty close to the saints charism in the first place. Well the greatest saints do seem to get a lot attributed to them after death. Look at St. Francis who gets attributed for a lot of things never recorded that he said and even a prayer turned song. Though in most cases the attributions are pretty close to the saints charism in the first place.

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