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		<title>By: Vincent Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/04/04/chrysostom-and-the-mysteries-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-2078883</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 14:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Fr. Ninan&#039;s &quot;co-equal&quot; 

How do you mean &quot;not as subordinate?&quot;  Clearly, the Son is subordinate to the Father in the aspect of authority; else he would not be revealed as &quot;son,&quot; but as &quot;co-father.&quot; Or are you suggesting that the Son&#039;s obedience to the cross, which atones for man&#039;s sin and  opens the door of salvation was a mistaken imagery, not intended to communicate this truth?  

In marriage there is likewise equal dignity as persons in the Image of God, while authority nevertheless belongs to the man.  This teaching, articulated by the fathers, is reiterated by recent popes, and clearly shows, among other things, that feminism and no-fault divorce and separation are errors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Fr. Ninan&#8217;s &#8220;co-equal&#8221; </p>
<p>How do you mean &#8220;not as subordinate?&#8221;  Clearly, the Son is subordinate to the Father in the aspect of authority; else he would not be revealed as &#8220;son,&#8221; but as &#8220;co-father.&#8221; Or are you suggesting that the Son&#8217;s obedience to the cross, which atones for man&#8217;s sin and  opens the door of salvation was a mistaken imagery, not intended to communicate this truth?  </p>
<p>In marriage there is likewise equal dignity as persons in the Image of God, while authority nevertheless belongs to the man.  This teaching, articulated by the fathers, is reiterated by recent popes, and clearly shows, among other things, that feminism and no-fault divorce and separation are errors.</p>
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		<title>By: smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 05:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If St. John Chrysostomos (who BTW I read was raised by a pagan mother) was so fond of marriage, and the miracle of childbirth, and spoke so highly of virginity....... why would he order to destroy one of the 7 Wonders of the Ancient World?...the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus (present day Turkey).....a Temple worshiping the Goddess of Virginity and Childbirth?  Did he not have any respect for those who came before him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If St. John Chrysostomos (who BTW I read was raised by a pagan mother) was so fond of marriage, and the miracle of childbirth, and spoke so highly of virginity&#8230;&#8230;. why would he order to destroy one of the 7 Wonders of the Ancient World?&#8230;the Temple of Artemis in Ephesus (present day Turkey)&#8230;..a Temple worshiping the Goddess of Virginity and Childbirth?  Did he not have any respect for those who came before him?</p>
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		<title>By: Fr.Thomas Ninan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr.Thomas Ninan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful exposition from St. John Chrysostom. Thank you. It also gives a sense of how the Fathers of that time looked upon women, which through this exposition, I would like to believe they understood as co-equal in the context of the family, as in Trinity and not as subordinate. Perhaps not many supported this view during that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful exposition from St. John Chrysostom. Thank you. It also gives a sense of how the Fathers of that time looked upon women, which through this exposition, I would like to believe they understood as co-equal in the context of the family, as in Trinity and not as subordinate. Perhaps not many supported this view during that time.</p>
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		<title>By: The case for early marriage &#124; Gladsome Light Dialogues Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The case for early marriage &#124; Gladsome Light Dialogues Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chrysostom and the Mystery of Marriage: an article about St. John Chrysostom view on married life by Mike Aquilina [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff! Keep it coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff! Keep it coming.</p>
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		<title>By: fr. richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>fr. richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this excellent piece!  As a Byzantine-rite priest, I&#039;m grateful for your work here and your many fine posts. I visit your site daily.  Christ is risen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this excellent piece!  As a Byzantine-rite priest, I&#8217;m grateful for your work here and your many fine posts. I visit your site daily.  Christ is risen!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Aquilina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Aquilina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m grateful to him for giving me the phrase &quot;delectable mischief,&quot; which I&#039;ve found useful for describing a certain someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m grateful to him for giving me the phrase &#8220;delectable mischief,&#8221; which I&#8217;ve found useful for describing a certain someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What am amazing post. Chrysostom, being the celibate that he was, makes more sense about marriage then some married people I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What am amazing post. Chrysostom, being the celibate that he was, makes more sense about marriage then some married people I know.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Sommer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Sommer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work, Mike.  Context is everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, Mike.  Context is everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Aquilina</title>
		<link>http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/04/04/chrysostom-and-the-mysteries-of-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-671256</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Aquilina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Select Bibliography&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0913836869%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0913836869%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;St. John Chrysostom:  On Marriage and Family Life&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0809102625%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0809102625%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;St. John Chrysostom: Baptismal Instructions&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0913836389%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0913836389%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;St. John Chrysostom: Six Books on the Priesthood&lt;/a&gt;

Peter Brown, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0231061013%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0231061013%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Body and Society&lt;/a&gt;

John C.  Cavadini, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usccb.org/laity/marriage/Cavadini.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Sacramentality of Marriage in the Fathers&lt;/a&gt;

Giulia Gasparro, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0818908033%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0818908033%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Human Couple in the Fathers&lt;/a&gt;

Vigen Guroian, “The Ecclesial Family: John Chrysostom on Parenthood and Children,” in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0802846939%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0802846939%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Child in Christian Thought&lt;/a&gt;

J.N.D. Kelly, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0801485738%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0801485738%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Golden Mouth: The Story of John Chrysostom-Ascetic, Preacher, Bishop&lt;/a&gt;

Enrico Mazza, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0916134938%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0916134938%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mystagogy: A Theology of Liturgy in the Patristic Age&lt;/a&gt;

Robert L. Wilken, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=1592449425%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/1592449425%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Chrysostom and the Jews: Rhetoric and Reality in the Late 4th Century&lt;/a&gt;

Edward Yarnold, S.J., &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=081462281X%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/081462281X%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82&quot; title=&quot;View product details at Amazon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Awe-Inspiring Rites of Initiation&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Select Bibliography</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0913836869%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0913836869%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">St. John Chrysostom:  On Marriage and Family Life</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0809102625%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0809102625%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">St. John Chrysostom: Baptismal Instructions</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0913836389%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0913836389%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">St. John Chrysostom: Six Books on the Priesthood</a></p>
<p>Peter Brown, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0231061013%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0231061013%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">The Body and Society</a></p>
<p>John C.  Cavadini, <a href="http://www.usccb.org/laity/marriage/Cavadini.pdf" rel="nofollow">The Sacramentality of Marriage in the Fathers</a></p>
<p>Giulia Gasparro, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0818908033%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0818908033%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">The Human Couple in the Fathers</a></p>
<p>Vigen Guroian, “The Ecclesial Family: John Chrysostom on Parenthood and Children,” in <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0802846939%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0802846939%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">The Child in Christian Thought</a></p>
<p>J.N.D. Kelly, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0801485738%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0801485738%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">Golden Mouth: The Story of John Chrysostom-Ascetic, Preacher, Bishop</a></p>
<p>Enrico Mazza, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0916134938%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/0916134938%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">Mystagogy: A Theology of Liturgy in the Patristic Age</a></p>
<p>Robert L. Wilken, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=1592449425%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/1592449425%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">John Chrysostom and the Jews: Rhetoric and Reality in the Late 4th Century</a></p>
<p>Edward Yarnold, S.J., <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=081462281X%26tag=wayofthefathers-20%26lcode=xm2%26cID=2025%26ccmID=165953%26location=/o/ASIN/081462281X%253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82" title="View product details at Amazon" rel="nofollow">The Awe-Inspiring Rites of Initiation</a></p>
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