Comments on: Interesting Development http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/ Mike Aquilina's Blog Fri, 25 Jan 2013 09:36:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Conan DeWitt http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/comment-page-1/#comment-843196 Conan DeWitt Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:22:21 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/#comment-843196 It's important to keep in mind that the EP has largely honorary significance in the EO world. Moscow has the numbers, so to speak, and is pretty much the only patriarchate capable of "speaking for Orthodoxy" in any significant fashion. And Moscow will categorically reject any proposal that even resembles what the EP has suggested here. There's a CNS article that elaborates a bit more on the Cardinal's proposal. http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=59186 The article makes it look like a definite non-starter with Moscow, since the status of the Ukrainian Church is at the center of the "practical" differences with Orthodoxy. Bear in ind also there is a long-running dispute between the EP and Moscow, and Moscow is likely to interpret things like this in the context of that dispute. It’s important to keep in mind that the EP has largely honorary significance in the EO world. Moscow has the numbers, so to speak, and is pretty much the only patriarchate capable of “speaking for Orthodoxy” in any significant fashion. And Moscow will categorically reject any proposal that even resembles what the EP has suggested here.

There’s a CNS article that elaborates a bit more on the Cardinal’s proposal.

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=59186

The article makes it look like a definite non-starter with Moscow, since the status of the Ukrainian Church is at the center of the “practical” differences with Orthodoxy. Bear in ind also there is a long-running dispute between the EP and Moscow, and Moscow is likely to interpret things like this in the context of that dispute.

]]> By: Gashwin http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/comment-page-1/#comment-842691 Gashwin Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:56:32 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/#comment-842691 Actually that story is just as brief as the one you linked to. I guess one needs to figure out what this "dual unity" proposed by Cardinal Husar might look like. Actually that story is just as brief as the one you linked to. I guess one needs to figure out what this “dual unity” proposed by Cardinal Husar might look like.

]]> By: Gashwin http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/comment-page-1/#comment-842688 Gashwin Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:53:12 +0000 http://www.fathersofthechurch.com/2008/06/19/interesting-development/#comment-842688 Fascinating. What would a "return to Orthodoxy" involve? Officially reviving communion with the relevant Orthodox patriarch? What about the Orthodox who are not in union with Rome? So, say, in Ukraine: the Ukrainian Catholics are ... Catholic-Orthodox. But the Orthodox will be ... just Orthodox ... ? Most interesting. I'm reading the original German story at <a href="http://www.kath.net/detail.php?id=20113" rel="nofollow">Kath.net </a> and will put a translation shortly. Fascinating. What would a “return to Orthodoxy” involve? Officially reviving communion with the relevant Orthodox patriarch?

What about the Orthodox who are not in union with Rome? So, say, in Ukraine: the Ukrainian Catholics are … Catholic-Orthodox. But the Orthodox will be … just Orthodox … ?

Most interesting. I’m reading the original German story at Kath.net and will put a translation shortly.

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